192. The Great Resignation is Here. How to Leverage it as The Great Opportunity - Sally Bryant
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Overview
Meet Sally. She began her career on the advancement team at her alma mater, Washington State University, before running one of the country's largest and most respected development recruitment firms today. Her true passion is great leadership, which drives her to get the right leader in the right seat to inspire successful teams. She's talking us through how to recruit top talent and what the Great Resignation means for those entering and leaving the nonprofit sector.🎧
Today’s Guest
Sally Bryant, President and CEO, The Bryant Group
“When I first saw those words, “The Great Resignation,” it actually just didn’t sit right with me. Because there’s always a good reason I think why things are happening, and I want to see what’s the good in this. To me, it really is the great opportunity.”
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Episode highlights
Sally’s story and journey to where she is today (3:17)
Sally’s journey to the nonprofit world (6:45)
The Great Resignation: what is it and what opportunities is it creating? (14:00)
How to attract amazing talent to your organization (22:00)
How to retain the talent you have (26:00)
Sally’s interview advice (28:00)
A powerful moment of philanthropy in Sally’s life (32:00)
Sally’s One Good Thing: Always make decisions out of love and trust, and never make decisions out of fear or anxiety. (37:00)
Powerful quotes
“Sometimes when you're young, and you're in your first “real job”, you don't know what you don't know.” -Sally
“It made me realize when a leader is a good leader, a successful leader, an authentic leader, a caring leader, it not only affects the results of the organization, but it affects every single person on the team.” -Sally
“When you are a leader who is lost in your own insecurities, you're affecting people internally.” -Sally
“So you can either have a positive, expanding ripple into the world. Or you can have this negative sort of shrinking ripple into the world. I didn't even know at the time, but I knew something was different, and I was gonna figure out what it was.” -Sally
“I think the story you talked about, like, I feel it bubbling in my chest of like, the power that can be unlocked. If we can get the right people into the seats to change the world. I mean, we talk about all the time of the podcast, the impact uprising, that's going to take incredible leadership that are healthy, that are in the the spots that have built vibrant cultures, at their homes and in their places of organization.” -Jon
“Suring the pandemic, people realized that they didn't need to be part of something that they didn't want to be part of, is going to work painful, right, which usually has to do with leadership, and then they didn't need to do that. And they could live anywhere.” -Sally
“When I first saw those words, “The Great Resignation”, it actually just didn't sit right with me. Because there's always a good reason I think why things are happening, and I want to see what's the good in this. To me, it really is the great opportunity.” -Sally
“There's this sort of great rehiring in our profession, people are restarting campaigns or taking campaign capital campaigns off pause. And so they're adding positions. So I immediately was thinking, the opportunity here is amazing.” -Sally
“People are looking for something different. They're looking for meaning in their life, we get to offer that to them from that, think about the byproduct. We have been talking about diversifying our profession for how many years now?” -Sally
“I have actually never seen this kind of opportunity for people in advancement, the number of positions at the entry level, the mid and entry leadership level and the mid management level. It's it's like a tsunami.” -Sally
“If you want to get into this business right now. It is the time. It is absolutely the time.” -Sally
“I don't care what your job is, you can be a leader. And that has to do with owning your position, owning who you are and caring about others.” -Sally
“What we help our clients understand is that this is not about the high pressure interview. Now don't get me wrong, thorough vetting is really important. But the recruiting piece is once you know, this is the person that you want, this is a process of helping them understand who are they going to be working with?” -Sally
“Life's too short, to not be happy, and happiness has to do with who we work with and who we report to. That's the leadership piece that makes that impact. Please understand that an interview is a two way street. An interview is them finding out about you as much as you're finding out about them.” -Sally
“So my next job I was blessed enough to be recruited to that job and And the person who would be my boss, I said to her, I know you're going to check my references, I would like to check yours.” -Sally
“So we like to say here, you know, we want to recruit the right leaders, but we also want to help people be the right leaders.” -Sally
“So rather than my assuming what someone wants, you know, usually the best answer is the simplest answer. Ask them.” -Sally
“Always make decisions out of love and trust, and never make decisions out of fear or anxiety.” -Sally
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